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Thanks for your compliment.

I'll soon upload a new set of photo's, interested people can view them on my webshop.

Just to end this discussion about the CPU, here's one of the pictures that I still have before I cleaned the CPU, ROM's and sockets:

That looks like 1977 to me.

And if that's not good enough, then I have a spare '78 Synertek 6502 on stock as well.

Zitat von stynx

Hi,

The Apple II you are willing to sell is indeed a nice specimen. There are some parts that make the expected price a bit unrealistic but you could be lucky to find someone who is willing to pay the 16000€. I would expect a 70s closed circuit security monitor to be used with a '77 Apple II. The Philips monitor that you include is at least from 1980. The Floppy cannot be from 1977 as you stated, but in 1978 there was the floppy available (13 sector version). in 1979 the floppy controller was upgraded to 16 sectors. Your Floppy controller and drive are most likely within specs. I have an early floppy controller and two <1000 Ser. drives with my 1978 A2. My A2 is about 10000 units apart from yours

The upper 32k of memory were added later in '79 and there are no original memory select blocks in your sale.

Things that are really nice:

- Original PSU

- Original Paddles (very hard to come by)

- very nice upper case (as far as i can see)

- original very early keyboard (cherry version?)

- (1) early floppy drive

Things that can (should) be be fixed:

- Monitor (i may have 2 or 3 from 1977 that was commonly used)

- Apple 16k select blocks (i may have some original left)

- cassette recorder from the 70s with cables

Things that can be fixed but are expensive:

- 1977 upper 32k memory (i would have to search through my chips to see if i had some left)

- 1976 or 1977 CPU (yours should be a '77 CPU ... i don't have one of those left)

Things that cannot be fixed:

- holes/modifications in bottom plate.

- original packaging

If you want to get a premium of 16000€ for your machine, it has to be perfect.

The missing mask on the CPU is indeed very vexing.

Anyways, it is nice to see a Apple II that is in such a good condition (at first glance). I would try to get the Apple II to a state like from '77. Everything else like the Floppy and controller as well as the upper 32k of memory would be additions. If you can create a authentic 1977 package with the Apple II in its center, you may have a higher chance to get this computer sold.

-Jonas

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Thanks so much for your valuable comment.

The Apple Disk II floppy drive came available in the second half of 1978. The one included is a slightly later model, probably from '79, but still quite an early drive with the multi color cable and the controller must also be from the same year or so with the tin contacts (instead of gold).

The monitor is from ca. 1985. I like the green phosphor screen, for me it just makes it look more attractive than a black/white monitor.

My Apple II is equipped with 48K and indeed 32K was added later. Memory was very expensive back then. I have the price list and you'll be shocked when you see what it once cost in Dutch 'guldens'. In fact, 16K was quite a lot of memory for a home computer in the late 70's.

You wrote: ''there are no original memory select blocks in your sale''. That's right and I have just edited my sales description. I initially thought that they were covers on top of the memory select blocks, but what I have seem to be aftermarket memory blocks in sockets. The good news is that I do have spare original Apple II memory select blocks. The new owner will get them for free if desired, together with some other spare parts.

The Synertek 6502 is really from 1977 (I believe week 32). The silkscreened text on the cpu is just very fragile after all these years and wipes off very easily if you start cleaning the pins of the cpu. I'm not going to discuss this, I will bring the new owner in contact with the first owner, to proof that it is the original cpu. Yes I have seen some revision 0 system boards with a ceramic cpu, but they might have even lower serial numbers (and of course there are many boards in existence with 'donor parts').

I am very honest in my description of this computer and I know the first owner. This Apple II is not 100% perfect and it's certainly not a new computer. But when was the last time that any of you have seen a perfect 40 year old Apple II revision 0 for sale? I can't remember it.

Overall my Apple II is one of the finest and earliest examples still in existence. Furthermore the new owner gets a lot of additional original documentation, software and hardware. Yes, there are some 'ventless case models' in existence, but you're going to have an extremely hard time finding a 100% original working one for sale and if you do find one, then it will cost you new car money as well.

The € 16,384.00 (symbolic for 16K of RAM) that I ask for it is well worth it. With the current trend of rising classic computer prices you'll regret over 5-10 years that you didn't buy this one. Yes, I know I'm a salesman, but mark my words (this is not my first Apple II and I have many years of experience trading computers like these).

I am the seller of this Apple II.

Thank you for your comments and free advertising (good or bad, I don't mind).

The price is non-negotiable and is certainly not a laugh. In fact, I don't mind keeping this computer and taking it off the market.

All information can be found on my website. It is not just another Apple II.

Indeed, if you just want a random Apple II, then you can find many less costly options.

By the way, just compare mine with this one and draw your own conclusions: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Early…149df5:g:rfMAAOSwLnBXVEkx

I've actually sold another working Apple II, but a later revision 4, about 2 years ago, and it got sold for a substantial amount of money. And if you do a bit of research on the web, then you can find reports of early Apple II computers, sold (some) years ago, also for substantial sums of money.

The Synertek 6502 CPU is also from 1977. I have cleaned the CPU, ROM's and sockets before testing (with special non-conductive contact spray), because the pins of the chips become dirty over time (not just dust, but sticky carbon residue / oxidation). Unfortunately the silkscreened text on the cpu seems to wear off very quickly (learnt my lesson and didn't touch it anymore..). It is extremely special to have an Apple II with all 1977 date code basic chips inside.

Back in the 70's when this computer was sold, there simply was no Apple monitor yet available. Apple's first monitor is the Monitor III, which was sold together with the later Apple III. Even an Apple Disk II floppy drive wasn't available yet. People just used a tv set and a cassette recorder: http://dogic.blogspot.nl/2006_09_24_archive.html Although there were some 3rd party monitors available in the 70's, finding a working one is a problem these days. I actually think the included Philips monitor fits the set pretty well.