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Hans
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Yes, I very much appreciate any contribution to my website.
Hans
I looked at the assembler rom dumps. It is indeed an assembler.
The monitor ROM addresses used are a jumptable at $9800.
Line 3109: F770 20 00 98 JSR $9800
Line 3128: F796 20 06 98 JSR $9806
Line 3138: F7AA 20 03 98 JSR $9803
From what I can see now zeropage addresses
F760 A9 90 LF760 LDA #$90
F762 85 1C STA $1C
F764 A9 F7 LDA #$F7
F766 85 1D STA $1D
F768 A9 A4 LDA #$A4
F76A 85 09 STA $09
F76C A9 F7 LDA #$F7
F76E 85 0A STA $0A
F770 20 00 98 JSR $9800
F773 60 RTS
F790 86 30 STX $30
F792 84 31 STY $31
F794 85 32 STA $32
F796 20 06 98 JSR $9806
F799 A5 26 LF799 LDA $26
F79B D0 FC BNE LF799
F79D A6 30 LDX $30
F79F A4 31 LDY $31
F7A1 A5 32 LDA $32
F7A3 60 RTS
F7A4 86 30 STX $30
F7A6 84 31 STY $31
F7A8 85 32 STA $32
F7AA 20 03 98 JSR $9803
F7AD 4C 98 97 JMP $9798
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Looks like TTY IN and out. with registers saved at entry and restored.
$F790 input, char in $26 zeropage $9806
$9803 output, $9798 ?
It does not look like one of the MOS assemblers/editors. The name 'ESCO' is in the dump.
Fun exercise!
danke! can you dump the monitorrom also? i expect the assembler calling rom routines.
looking forward to the rom dumps!
Great find! A dump of all the EPROMS would be great.
4 SRAMS TMs4045 makes 2K RAM.
I see several address decoders, including 145 like the KIM-1 has.
A 4MHz crystal, must be divided to 1 MHz, since the 6502 is the 1 MHz NMOS part.
The 6820 is the PIA. And since you have monitor access, the serial is bit banged.
2516 EPROMS, so dumping is not too difficult
From your description I figure they took the source of the KIM-1 and left the commands as is.
They must have changed addresses indeed, no 6530 at 17XX. And all I/O at other addresses, different setup up PIA ports.
With a dump we can help recreating source of the monitor. And of course the Assembler.
Hans
Are you still interested in the ROM Content? I have from the ESCO-1 (looking for Docu) Three 2K EProms (located in $E000 to F000) wich seems to the Assembler.
Cheers Willi
Always worth a look! Very interested!
wow! awesome!
Message from Bob at his website Shutting down Corsham Tech, at least for now –Corsham Technologies, LLC
Bob sold a.o. the KIM Clone, a well engineered 6502 based KIM-1 clone. I have two and the additional boards and am very happy with them.
I wish Bob all the best Bob, hope to see him in better health in the future! Thank you for all the high quality products, good services and nice conversations!
Hans
Here the message from Bob:
Shutting down Corsham Tech, at least for now
My health is not improving and another round of in-patient chemotherapy is in the near future.
So the Corsham Tech store will remain in “vacation” mode for longer to see if things improve. This morning I closed the eBay store and removed all for-sale items.
Today I will begin cancelling/refunding orders placed via this web page and the store will remain off-line. In the future I might go to selling only blank boards and parts, but NO kits and NO assembled boards as they require too much physical labor. Each and ever item in the store (and there are LOTS of them) needs to be edited. Not very hard but it is a lot to do.
I am truly sorry about this. Over the years I have tried to deliver quality products with very reasonable shipment times. My health is getting in the way of normal living so adding more work just makes it tougher.
Bob
Amazed what my archive and my memory hides for me. An Elektor Junior book I scanned many years ago, misplaced and forgotten. Found in the Rockwell folders (I am working at the moment on Forth computers by Rockwell!), scans cleaned up and published on request of my German friend Norbert.
Elektor books – Retro Computing (hansotten.nl)ektuur-junior/elektor-junior-literature/elektor-books/
auch qwerty bitte
Linke!
I wish you strength! And give it time.
There are more important things in life than our hobby. Family, health, quality of life.
Hans
Ich meldde mich auch fur eine full set.
Danke,
Hans
Sehr schöne Sammlung!
Vielen Dank, Hans
ich werde wenn ich mit der Erweiterung fertig bin, ein bisschen was zusammenschreiben und bessere Fotos machen.
Danke!
Ich hatte gesten noch bißchen was dazu angeschaut. Anscheinend war das auch ein wenig so gedacht, daß man da einen 6502 mit mehreren 6530 (und wahrscheinlich jeweils unterschiedlichen ROM Inhalten) koppeln kann. Bis zu sieben oder so. Das wird dann auch irgendwie ein interessantes Gerät, zumal ja jeder Chip IRQs auslöden kann und eigenes RAM hat, was vemutlich auuch an der gleichen Stelle für die CPU auftaucht. Außerdem sind das dann ja schon 14 generische 8Bit Ports.
Eventuell, wenn es das nicht schon irgendwo gibt, wäre es evtl. auch interessant, wenn Du mal das ROM als Image auslesen würdest. Das ist ja v.a. interessant, weil es da diesen Monitor + Terminalanschluß (ser) drin gibt. Läßt sich ja vermutlich auch woanders zweckähnlich weiterbenutzen.
ROM is already available, also in typed in source form. Used for example in the TIM-2 design, a 6532 instead of 6530-004 .
Indeed, the 6530-004 is the best documented member of the 6530 family!
Alles anzeigenWer ganz genau wissen will was in dem 6530-004 steckt, schaut hier:
http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6711
Da haben wir den mal so richtig auseinandergenommen...
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Ich bin im EMUF Sonderheft, Artikel: AIM schießt EPROM auf das Siemens "Applikationsbuch PC-100" gestoßen.Hat das jemand ?
Der Google findet hierzu nichts.
Durch weiter Suche nach anderem AIM-65 Zeug bin ich auf den hansotten gestoßen, logisch.
Da liegt das gesuchte Buch, mit leicht anders lautendem Titel, daher wurde auch der Google nicht fündig.
Applikationen zum Personal Computer PC100 Ausgabe 1980/81
mfG. Klaus Loy
glad it helps!
Enhanced 6502 BASIC – Retro Computing (hansotten.nl) may help with EHBasic.
Found a photo of a KIM-5 in an ebay auction (German seller).
Who bought this? I would love to see a dump of all those ROMs in there
!
Universal Disk Controller elektor_computing_6.pdf (archive.org) page 27
Floppy and SCSI disks with Elektor Computing 6 Universal Disk Controller. SCSI, SCSI SD, Floppy drives, Gotek with Flashfloppy
More info from Dietrich about the excellent work on CPM-65 at CPM-65 and Elekterminal emulator – Retro Computing (hansotten.nl)
Alles anzeigenSupertape wäre vielleicht ein alternatives Kassettenformat mit 3600 und 7200 Baud.
Ich habe da noch einen über 25 Jahre alten Code für meinen Junior (1 MHz, geänderte Memory-MAP, CP/M-ähnliches Betriebssystem), den ich hier gerne teile.
Der Code hat seinerzeit recht zuverlässig mit einem handelsüblichen Kassetenrekorder funktioniert, ist aber aktuell nicht mehr in Nutzung, da ich bei mir die Kassettenschnittstelle entfernt habe. Die Assembler-Syntax ist meine eigene, aber leicht anzupassen.
Dietrich
CP/M-65 for Junior? Interesting!
Is there a reason the link goes through FacebookB+No, my error.
No, my error. Elektor Elektuur Junior – Retro Computing (hansotten.nl) is the right link.
After several years so much new and correct information has been coming in!
While I was studying the Comal interpreter, I want to port it to the KIM-1, I realised the Elektor pages required some updating and reorganising.
I could not find easy what I needed: circuits and source listings. I extracted the circuits from the articles and checked the various listings with the ROMs I had in my archive.
The sources that appeared the last years were checked, adapted and the binaries compared with the hex dumps. Some surprises, many faults and not with the correct names.
The ESS numbers are attached to the ROMs.
Now you can have all the essential Elektor Junior information from base to full system with checked ROMs, with sources, step by step.
The complete archive of articles and books is also updated, especially the English articles are as complete as possible.
Have a look at the Elektor Junior pages!
With thanks to the many persons and fora that helped me to collect the information!
Alles anzeigenDie Software bekommst von der US-Firma Salea.
Allerdings, ob die aktuelle Software noch mit dem China "Gerät" funktioniert weiß ich nicht.
Alte Software findet evtl. noch im Netz, oder von "Bekannten".
Außerdem existiert OpenSource Software Sigrok, für Linux und Windows.
mfG. Klaus Loy
Sigrok funktioniert gut damit!
Thanks,
These are the sources in RAE format.
The AIM65 RAE source (pagetable github) is the only one I know of the SBC's.
Yea, the RAE sources of SYM-1 are welcome!
Sure they are the sources of RAE and not source files in RAE format?
Hans
I am looking for the ROM dumps of the KIM-5 , the Resident Assembler/Editor for the KIM-1
http://retro.hansotten.nl/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/KIM-5.png
I have the manual:
http://retro.hansotten.nl/uploads/files/MOS_KIM_Assembler_Manual_Preliminary.pdf
But the ROMs (3x 6540) are not preserved? Any one has a KIM-5 and could dump?